A club that shall remain anonymous!
Regular readers may have noticed that it is rare for me not to name an organisation that I have recently spoken to. When it does happen, it is usually because there was some problem at the meeting and I do not wish to embarrass that club or society.
A few months ago, I delivered my talk Life as a Freelance Comedy Writer following a dinner at a particular club in the South East. I spoke to a male audience numbering around 20 for the requested length of time.
Then came the 'vote of thanks'.
Two years ago, in a popular post, I blogged about what a vote of thanks should and most definitely should not consist of. I mentioned examples of both. You can read that post here.
I am afraid the vote of thanks on this occasion fell into the latter category. The member delivering it began by telling a long, old, shaggy dog story joke against speakers (badly). I knew it was old because I had first heard it on an 'Evening with...' cassette featuring a much-loved, retired British sportsman in the mid-90s (and I very much doubt if it was new even then). But he had told it about speakers in general and didn't direct it at one person whereas this club member rewrote it to be specifically about me. Then there was an inane comment about me not looking like a comedy writer. (So what do they look like then? The number that I have met over the past 20 years must run into three figures but I still couldn't tell you!) The negativity continued and I had to endure it.
Now I am used to occasionally receiving tongue-in-cheek comments after I have spoken. For example, sometimes I get a bit of ribbing because I am not always the world's quickest at returning calls to finalise arrangements for talks. Fair enough. And then there are the votes of thanks which are unfortunately-worded and contain inadvertent double meanings or backhanded compliments. I love those as much as the audience does and they often go into future talks as self-deprecating anecdotes. But this was different; the whole thing just seemed aggressive with very little in the way of the thanks which are surely the main reason for this type of short speech! (Even the fearsome speakers at Friars Club Roasts often have some appreciative comments after all the clever comic insults but this chap was no Don Rickles or Jeffrey Ross).
Now, even if I had bombed, it would still have been bad-mannered but one gentleman at my table said afterwards that my talk was the best they had had in a long time. A decent percentage of the audience bought copies of Nick R's in a Twist! and their Treasurer enclosed a note with the cheque saying that my presentation had been 'excellent'.
So what had I done to deserve this? True, I had been a few minutes late due to some appalling rail disruption but the lost time was soon made up. As I have mentioned, my talk lasted for the length of time they had requested. I had finished on a humorous story about an occasion when I spoke to members of a particular profession which a couple of the club members also belonged to but this had been discussed with the committee member who had given me a lift in and we had agreed that I should tell it; besides, in my stories, a great deal of the humour is directed at myself.
The person who had booked me wasn't present that evening so perhaps the speaker delivering the vote of thanks had not been made aware that I had helped this club out by standing in at short notice. And maybe he had also not been told that I had helped them out still further by allowing some haggling over an already modest fee because they are such a small organisation.
Then again, perhaps it made no difference and he just felt that he had to follow a comedy writer's speech by trying to be an entertainer himself. But non self-effacing humour is often best delivered with a twinkle in the eye.
I would love to have been able to tell you the name of the venue where the three-course dinner was easily one of the best that I have ever had at any speaking engagement since I started in 1996. And it is a pity that I cannot name the committee member who, because of the rail problems, gave me a lift from the nearest major station to the venue and back again afterwards - a round trip of nearly 30 miles. I was truly grateful to him. But this is a blog about public speaking and that graceless vote of thanks made the biggest impression on me that evening and I felt it needed to be written about here so, out of respect for the other members of the club, I will not say who they are or where they meet.
The rail journey home was depressing. The excellent meal, the amusing conversation, the good work the club does, the compliments on my talk, even the selflessness of the member who drove me all that way all seemed to be overshadowed by the rather humiliating experience of standing there while one member directed a lot of negative, attacking 'humour' at me, all under the guise of a vote of thanks and presumably for the 'entertainment' of an audience who apparently had enjoyed my own speech!
I am in no hurry to go back there.
Public Speaking Tip #355: Votes of thanks may only be very short speeches but they can make a lasting impression. At a function, the vote of thanks may be one of the last speeches the audience - and guest speaker - gets to hear before leaving. Any humour you include should be good-natured and tempered with some sincere thanks at the end.
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A great dinner spoiled by a rotten vote of thanks
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Nick R Thomas A.L.A.M. (Public Speaking)
on Tue 23 Mar 2010 08:58 PM GMT | Permanent Link
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Re: A great dinner spoiled by a rotten vote of thanks
I'm so sorry this happened to you, Nick. Sometimes guys seem to think it's funny to put other guys down as a way of male bonding, but this sounds like it went over the top.
On the other hand, if you hadn't written about this occasion, I would never have learned about "votes of thanks." I've heard the expression but never knew what it meant. Very interesting! Re: A great dinner spoiled by a rotten vote of thanks
"Hi Nick, this post struck a chord when i read it! I've had similar experiences over the years, normally with a frustrated person who wants to make their own speech and just relishes the opportunity to stomp all over my material!
Anyway...it happened again last night! For once I was brilliant...got 'em ,fired them up,kept it tight...and as you know, if as a speaker you feel it was good, it was good. Anyway, Mr Grumpy is asked to give the vote of thanks...and clearly despite the audiences' great response ,it had all passed him by..." You shared lots of ideas we've heard before....interested that you've spoken in Rio,I presume you can speak Portuguese...I presume your message was for us to take personal responsibility, well, I'd like to think you were speaking to the converted" All I could think was that either I had said something to get his back up , or there was something going on in his life that was causing him pain and it eased the pain to have a dig at me. My big disappointment was for the audience who, to my mind, were somewhat deflated by these final remarks. Anyway, there is often "one" in the audience...and its just bad news if they get asked to give the vote of thanks. I write my own introduction, and insist its used...I have often thought about doing my own vote of thanks! Keep up the great work and don't let them get you down!" Re: A great dinner spoiled by a rotten vote of thanks
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Nick R Thomas A.L.A.M. (Public Speaking)
on Fri 23 Apr 2010 04:46 PM BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Fortunately this sort of behaviour is very rare, Lisa, and it was from just the one member.
Yes, votes of thanks are a big part of public speaking in the UK, in fact there have been very few of my 800-plus speaking engagements where I have not received one afterwards. Schools' public speaking competitions here often involve teams of three contestants: the first introducing the speaker, the second delivering the speech and the third giving the vote of thanks. Re: A great dinner spoiled by a rotten vote of thanks
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Nick R Thomas A.L.A.M. (Public Speaking)
on Fri 23 Apr 2010 04:52 PM BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Jim, my experience sounds positively rosy compared with yours.
I think we may have stumbled upon a whole new public speaking concept here, the 'vote of ingratitude.' May it never catch on! Trackbacks
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